Who has this Crank Seal Protection Plate?

SlowE93

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Jul 2, 2017
538
Easy, VTT even addressed this issue as well. So there is a gen 1 and gen 2 SPLOCK design. The Gen 1 had a spiraled spline design like a spline remover thread, this prevented the spline lock from biting into the crank fully in some cases and that's why some gen 1's slipped, there is also a discussion how a spiral spline will only bite tighter and work in one direction. I believe it was only one or two cases of it not working, which is extremely little. VTT addressed this issue by making the Gen 2 SPLOCK which has straight splines (now it works in both directions) and must be pressed into the crank, this means the splines already have bit into the crank upon installation and is guaranteed to have been locked in. They even confirmed it with images of the spline marks into the crank.
While I will say the Splock is added insurance (not 100% guarantee), I still stand by my thoughts (as well as others), that a bolt capture does nothing.
 

SlowE93

Lieutenant
Jul 2, 2017
538
The hub spinning is not addressed by the CBC as previously stated, again showing you don't understand this issue, if you want to stop it from spinning you need a full crank hub solution that is pinned, keyed, or a splined.

You can stop the CBC from vibrating lose by securing the bolts holding it on with loctite, whose job is to prevent bolts from vibrating lose.
Correct, VTT says the complete solution is to use BOTH. However, before the spline lock came out, they said the CBC would prevent failures caused by the bolt backing out as it is IMPOSSIBLE for the bolt to back out using a CBC.
Thats the issue I had and Chris then said that yes, the bolt can still come out.
I only quoted what you said regarding cbc to begin with (not spline lock) and the bolt can and will come out if using alone with no spline lock. Period.
 

doublespaces

Administrator
Oct 18, 2016
8,704
AZ
As far as the seal thing is concerned, it looked half baked to me so I never bought it. If it wasn't making a sacrifice then I'd install one even if my maintenance is good. A belt can come off for more than one reason such as a broken pulley.
 
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Orion1two

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Dec 14, 2019
13
Yep, that went to shit real quick. We were talking about bedplate bolts.... idk if I would say the design is half baked I've spoken to several people over the last 2 weeks that said the plate saved their ass. Belt breaking may be rare if your car is maintained but in that odd case no one wants the belt to destroy their engine.
 
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F87Source

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Oct 14, 2019
181
Canada
Yep, that went to shit real quick. We were talking about bedplate bolts.... idk if I would say the design is half baked I've spoken to several people over the last 2 weeks that said the plate saved their ass. Belt breaking may be rare if your car is maintained but in that odd case no one wants the belt to destroy their engine.
I'm curious if the bed plate would shift at all and if the seal would be compromised if one were to remove those two bolts. I'm thinking no since there are so many bolts holding the bed plate together, but I don't want to take that kind of a risk. Wish the plate was cheaper though.
 

Orion1two

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Dec 14, 2019
13
F87 I think the same just two bolts of many there location though had me worried at first. See the link I posted yesterday. $85 version on ebay. Guy got right back to me and answered any questions I had. I'll probably be going with his updated model releasing next month just for peace of mind. but I'm not trying to pay $140 for it. His fitment looks better than other ebay sellers as well
 
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F87Source

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Oct 14, 2019
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F87 I think the same just two bolts of many there location though had me worried at first. See the link I posted yesterday. $85 version on ebay. Guy got right back to me and answered any questions I had. I'll probably be going with his updated model releasing next month just for peace of mind. but I'm not trying to pay $140 for it. His fitment looks better than other ebay sellers as well
Yeah the bolts right at the front crank seal makes it even riskier for leaks, especially since it is at the front where there are no other bolts on the other side.

Yeah I'll take a look at the eBay guy or Vader solutions later on. I want a solution now so I can do it while I put on my CBC.
 

fmorelli

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Aug 11, 2017
2,882
Virginia
F87 I think the same just two bolts of many there location though had me worried at first. See the link I posted yesterday. $85 version on ebay. Guy got right back to me and answered any questions I had. I'll probably be going with his updated model releasing next month just for peace of mind. but I'm not trying to pay $140 for it. His fitment looks better than other ebay sellers as well
I have to say I'm very unimpressed by the welding work on what is likely the best example in the eBay photos. I wouldn't put that on my car, but that's just me. Beautiful part is someone can save a few bucks and think they got a deal, and someone can spend more money and think they got a good deal.

Filippo
 

F87Source

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Oct 14, 2019
181
Canada
I have to say I'm very unimpressed by the welding work on what is likely the best example in the eBay photos. I wouldn't put that on my car, but that's just me. Beautiful part is someone can save a few bucks and think they got a deal, and someone can spend more money and think they got a good deal.

Filippo
From what the other poster said, the authentic oxwerkz plate isn't much better either.
 
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